BillyBondsBirthday
9:59 Wed Oct 4
Re: Electric cars
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Mike Oxsaw 9:36 Wed Oct 4
Do you mean the front boot or the rear boot?
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Mike Oxsaw
9:36 Wed Oct 4
Re: Electric cars
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Is there room in the boot of an electric car for a small portable generator and a jerry-can of fuel?
Sure the generator output can be fed through a modified UPS to trickle charge the battery while on the road, thus extending the range somewhat.
OK it'll make Greta stamp her foot and cry if she finds out but you'll LOOK green and environmentally friendly as you swan about town, which is ALL that counts, right?
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BillyBondsBirthday
9:31 Wed Oct 4
Re: Electric cars
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Plenty of nonsense on here but that is always the case on any forum whenever anyone mentions EVs,
I got a Tesla March 2022 and it is brilliant, the technology is so far ahead of anything else, e.g. charging on Tesla Chargers you just plug in, no swiping a credit card. The charger recognises the car and charges the registered card. I went to South Devon and charged at Bristol on the way there and again coming back.
I have been from Brentwood to Winchester and back and to Lowestoft and back without needing to charge either time.
Home charging helps massively, the Devon trip is the only time I have ever had to pay on the road to charge. Tesla chargers are so much more reliable and available than those for other EVs and I haven't been in a petrol station for 18 months.
I didn't buy electric to be green, as I say the technology is great. Dropped the wife off at hospital the other week and sat in the car watching Essex cricket live on Youtube. When you set SatNav the car tells you what percentage battery you will have left at the destination, always very accurate. If you will have little charge left it will then show charging stations on route and tell you how many chargers are free at any given time as you get near.
And voice control is great, say "I am hot" and the AC turns up, say "my feet are cold" and the warm air is directed accordingly. Say "play I'm forever blowing bubbles" and Spotify jumps to the Cockney Rejects. Ok, you can't have everything,
It's on charge now, adds 9% for each hour plugged in.
Not for everyone but when I had the unusual opportunity to get a new car that's what I went for. That's it.
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the exile
8:57 Wed Oct 4
Re: Electric cars
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Ten reasons why they are anything but brilliant:
1. Way too expensive. Even fewer people would be buying them if it weren't for the subsidies, tax-breaks etc.
2. Nowhere near as green as they're cracked up to be, especially when you factor in the mining and processing of the lithium and other minerals required.
3. Range issues.
4. Charging issues - terrible infrastructure and dependability.
5. Cost of charging has risen considerably.
6. Battery issues - extremely expensive and have to be replaced after about 10 years.
7. What happens when the lithium runs out? Oh yes, it will.
8. Insurance premiums are going through the roof, because...
9. They can be dangerous. The batteries can spontaneously combust, especially if they are involved in any kind of collision. They burn incredibly intensely and cannot be extinguished until burnt out.
10. Many of the drivers are virtue-signalling twats.
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Dwight Van Mann
5:32 Wed Oct 4
Re: Electric cars
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at least an old VW Golf gti doesn't try to kidnap you even if the driver is a pisshead...
"I was kidnapped by my runaway electric car: Terrified motorist, 53, reveals his new £30,000 MG ZS EV 'began driving itself' after suffering 'catastrophic malfunction' - forcing him to dial 999 and crash it into a police van to get it to stop"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12592047/Driver-kidnapped-electric-car-Glasgow.html
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RoyalDocksGK
11:16 Tue Oct 3
Re: Electric cars
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Tesla drivers are cunts.
That is all.
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Norflundon
7:02 Tue Oct 3
Re: Electric cars
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chim chim cha boo 4:57 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
That is complete and utter bollox whoever told you that is winding you up losing that much charge on your phone. If I have my air con on for 200 miles it knocks 5 miles off
And 45mins to charge it I only ever do that if I’m somewhere where there’s a charger like my local Asda has a a super charger in the petrol station opposite even if I’m in there for 10mins getting milk and bread it sticks on over 100miles. It would only need that long if you were on zero and wanted to go to 100%
They definitely aren’t for everyone and most aren’t suitable if you drive very long distances regularly although sone have very long ranges equal to petrol motors.
They are far cheaper to run as long as you have a charger at home.
The tax breaks if you can get it as a company along with my fuel saving mean I have a pretty expensive car for free
Living in London it’s insanity to get a petrol car if you can afford one and you live in a house or a flat with a charger station
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aldgate
9:58 Mon Sep 25
Re: Electric cars
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I've leased a Tesla 3 for more than 4 years now. I have a garage and home charger which makes a massive difference. Relying on nearby chargers is a pain even in central London. I don't drive massive distances but have seen charger queues on longer trips which is annoying.I used to have a classic 80s Merc so the Tesla was a big change. It's fantastic to drive and rapid like all electric cars.I'm sure they will become the norm in cities as charging is improved but still not totally there yet if you have a long commute/can't charge at home.
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1964
9:44 Mon Sep 25
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This is enough to put you off
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12555513/Electric-car-EXPLODES-driveway-sets-fire-Merseyside-family-home-battery-malfunctions.html
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Malayammer
4:23 Mon Sep 25
Re: Electric cars
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I bought the Audi Q4 ( would love the new Q8) but the Q4 is perfect .
I’m not convincing anyone either way , the merits are entirely dependent on your driving requirements. If for work reasons you may have regular unplanned journeys then I can understand a bit of anxiety but for every day use it beats petrol cars hands down .
We have a fast charger at home with a charger timed for cheap rate overnight so every morning wake up with a range of 330
Miles on the clock ( all the rubbish about turning the radio on , charging the phone Etc is complete bollocks . It loses about a mile or 2 !!!) . I admit aircon reduces the range by about 10%.
Long journeys are easy with range , there’s not many times you drive 300 miles without wanting a break and even if you happen to be in a hurry you can just do a 10,20 or 30 minute top up .
I think in nearly one year now I can honestly say there has been only one time where a little bit of “ range anxiety “ set in but in the end with the use of the Audi app just meant a slight diversion to top up .
Cost wise if charging at home it’s about 30% of our petrol car , rapid charges on the road are quite ‘ expensive’ but still around 50% cheaper .
Like I say may not suit everyone but I love it and for everyday use and a charger at home it would be impossible not to admit the merits over a petrol car .
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chim chim cha boo
2:25 Mon Sep 25
Re: Electric cars
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It's really interesting to see my peers (said grudgingly) and THEIR EXPERIENCE with the electric cars they've bought or leased with their own money and I am not even being sarcastic. It's simply a subject I know nothing about and these posts are quite enlightening.
I've never owned a car but borrowed many and when it came to buying a motorcycle I felt compelled to buy the one with the biggest engine in any production bike, knowing that I will have owned the last great petrol fueled dinosaur before biking gets neutered by emissions testing.
God bless the Triumph Rocket 3R in phantom black with a Competition Werkes tuned pipe and a spell on a race dyno giving 178BHP at the back wheel and 221 newton metres of torque.
The swan song of bikes generally.
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Pagey
12:29 Mon Sep 25
Re: Electric cars
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I’ve got an electric car with work as it makes sense for tax purposes, but I would rather have a petrol car again as it just leads to unnecessary grief.
Having to charge it continually for one, long journeys are a huge pain, waiting like a prick for a charger to be available, waiting like a prick for it to charge, worrying if you have enough mileage to make it somewhere at times. Who needs that crap?!
Luckily I get by on the full charge at home usually, but even the odd bit of grief is just pointless grief. Imagine an emergency where you need to get somewhere quickly but don’t have enough mileage? Fuck that.
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joyo
3:03 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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goose will you stop it,your last 2 posts l totally agree with
I have zero intention of buying electric car,too expensive and bollocks to stopping on long trip to charge up maybe twice waiting 45mins to charge if you can find a charging point
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zebthecat
1:18 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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The main issue I have with car ownership and carbon footprints is the turnover in ownership. Yes I know someone else will have your car after the initial lease is over but it doesn't sit right.
I have never bought a new car (the closest was the Skoda which I bought from the dealer and it was their demonstrator car so it was ludicrously cheap). I am pushing sixty and have owned six cars and have run them until they become too expensive to keep on the road.
Sort of with you on the 93 bruuno. I love mine but it was pretty sorted when got it four years ago (2.0T Aero). Both front springs snapped last year which was annoying but not that pricey a fix. Also had one of the hydraulic roof rams go pop just after I bought it but I have used the same Saab specialist (fivw of my 6 cars have been Saabs) to take care of mine for year and they sourced a reconditioned one for not a lot. The 93 vert is keeper. Also had it remapped (£90) so it goes like the clappers If I want it to.
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twoleftfeet
12:59 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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Bruno.
Yep £375 a month
I had a Mercedes AMG220d company car and the tax was horrendous.
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nerd
12:14 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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The good people of Aberdeenshire won't so happy with EVs when they lost power for over a month in many areas last year . Then there is electric storms caused by sunspots , this has affected a number of cities world wide ,the met office now reports on them as we come more reliant on tech . A standard car is a Faraday cage in a lightning strike ,a plastic one full of chips is not and sadly due to the way the cars are built full of gadgets you need the chips more and more , they are not built to run with out them and could be. Strip an Ev to basics, make sure it can generate surplus power , sola ,wind and motion then I'm in . Till then I'll wait till hydrogen etc and this farce ends in the next few years it's just moving your carbon waste to somewhere else . The production of these cars is a disgrace but hey not on my doorstep , we are carbon neutral where the Chinese don't care and happy to mine this crap causing more pollution.
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bruuuno
11:55 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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twoleftfeet 11:28 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
Did you mean to write £375 a year in tax? Who pays that much a month?
I cgaf about carbon footprints - I live in the middle of city close to a main road and all electric can’t come soon enough for my lungs imo.
Zeb - fellow 93 owner here, I love mine although am finding it pricey to maintain, so about 20k a year in it
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goose
11:34 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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100% bungo.
Electric cars are not the answer.
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Bungo
11:31 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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Surprised that there isn't more discussion generally about synthetic fuels. Still in early stages, but if they could be produced at an acceptable cost in sufficient quantity, and with an acceptable level of carbon-neutrality, then should be lots of benefits in using existing vehicles and existing fuel stations etc.
Worth keeping an eye on?
https://www.cinch.co.uk/guides/ask-the-experts/synthetic-fuels-the-way-forward-or-just-a-dead-end
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twoleftfeet
11:28 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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I got a Skoda Enyaq about 4 months ago and fucking love it.
Fantastic car, good range and plenty of places to charge it up.
Best of all gives me an extra £375 a month in my pocket due to the tax.
Happy days.
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iphammer
11:26 Sun Sep 24
Re: Electric cars
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Dangerous on the roads- Can catch fire any minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWvI1daNils
Cost the same amount of £ per mile as a diesel car
Very quiet and a danger to those who are slightly deaf
Bad for the environment when you think about Lithium mining https://tinyurl.com/2v5pkwnd
https://images.app.goo.gl/hraXUX2cRXUwiCS26
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